questions about cars and bikes
I got some good questions about my previous article on cars, both on- and off-line, so i thought i’d shoot a few responses out there for consideration. The main response i’ve been getting (and have had on other topics as well) is that i’m not “being realistic”. I think the main thing i’m trying to do here is investigate our moral obligations. I’m trying to discover what we should do. When we have a destination, or at least a direction to travel in, then we can make choices right now that seem to lead us in that direction. It guides us as we try to find our way. I hardly think it’s rational to believe that i can make all cars go away tomorrow…but i do think that we should all be doing things that will lead to that, both through individual choices, and by grouping together to do collective action. And as we do that, we have to provide new options for people if we’re going to convince them to give up the awful old ones. With that in mind, i’d like to respond to the criciticisms that were recently raised, in the hopes that i can supply some alternatives. ok, on with the questions :)
“What if you needed to haul more than 300 lbs?” I like this one. i didn’t address this at all in my previous post, so i guess i’ll start now. So the general idea i’m trying to go with here is that environmental distruction and deaths are bad. Having millions and millions of giant steel gas-powered leisure vehicles is a big cause of both of those bad things. how do we get around that? The short answer is ride bikes….but just giving a short answer doesn’t address the needs of the people who have adapted their lives to the current reality of having heavy gas-powered leisure vehicles everywhere.
Let’s separate out the uses of our heavy gas-powered vehicles. there’s the standard leisure stuff…you’re travelling from one place to another, not really carrying much. Then there’s commuting 5, 10, 20, or 40km to work, or travelling a long distance (like 300km or something, perhaps for a camping trip), and then moving large objects (couches from ikea, or moving to a new house, or perhaps shipping containers of tomatoes from california). There are probably more categories, but these should do for now. This particular question was about big objects, so let’s start there

Currently, it’s conceivable that some people go to a furniture store and buy a table or a couch or something, and put it in the back of their SUV to take home. How would such a task possibly happen if we didn’t all have an individual 3000lb gas-powered vehicle at our disposal? Well, last time i mentioned that you could use a currently-available Bikes At Work Trailer to do this, and i cited the one model that can carry 300lbs (see pic of ryan using it to carry a bulky mattress). According to the Bikes At Work webpage, it’s not too difficult to use bikes to carry loads that are too big for most cars. They’ve got an example where they string 3 trailers together and haul 1000lbs with 1 bike.
Now what happens if you’re not feeling up to hauling a big weight with your bike? Well, start with what would happen right now if you went to ikea to pick up a couch and you couldn’t lift the couch into your Ford F150….you’d probably ask a friend or two to come help. no big deal. Similarly, when you want to move to a new house and you need to get all of your stuff from A to B, you call a few friends, and usually rent a big truck that can carry it all. Instead, you could rent some bike trailers and call the same friends to help. Check out the BAW page on doing a household move by bike. Sure, it might be a bit easier to burn a bunch of gas with a giant steel contraption, but the easiest thing isn’t always the best. But really, the biggest concern i have is using huge gas powered vehicles for every task. If you used one for some special purpose that only occurs once every year, then i don’t think it’s such a big deal.
some people just are not able to ride bikes. I think there are a couple of statements inside this. One might be that there are people in wheelchairs or have advanced cancer, or i don’t know what. It seems to me that they could still take public transit, or they could have some sort of electric vehicle of their own. I’d hope that the electricity is generated through some sustainable method too. Either way, whatever solution they currently use could be easily translated to a more ecologically sound method. Even if they still used the same huge dirty cars, the roads would be much safer if it’s not Everyone using them, and also if the speed limit is knocked down to 35km/h or something else reasonable.
The other part of this statement is that some people are less physically fit than others. This ties in with the next one: I would not be able to ride my bike all the way from here to X. Assuming a person doesn’t have some debilitating injury, i’d say this statement is incorrect. Yes, perhaps it can’t be done immediately, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Most of the things i advocated in my previous article weren’t things that will change in a day, and this is one of those. My personal bike-riding ability is a good example.
I only really started riding my bike about 2 years ago. When i started, I really wasn’t athletic in any way; i was just a skinny nerd. I started biking after my friends nagged me to go riding with them one night. then i started riding short distances to visit friends or go to the store or whatever. after a few weeks of that, it started getting easier and easier. I found that the hills that were really challenging before, were not too bad after all. Once my friends had shown me that i could (slowly) ride a 30km distance without having any previous cycling, i began to think that it wasn’t that hard. This doesn’t mean that i could speed through 30km in an hour, nor does it mean that i could suddenly ride 200km in a day, up several mountain passes. It just means that it’s not that hard to ride a bike in a leisurely fashion, and the more you do it the easier it gets. You get good at riding a bike by riding a bike.
I had this concept demonstrated to me again recently. I gave my old bike to my dad, and he started riding it a little bit. he had a little trouble at first, because it was a road bike that forced him into a more racing-style posture and he wasn’t used to it, but after a week or so he was fine. He started the transformation from a very sedentary lifestyle to one that had regular exercise. Now, after a period of just leisurely rides around town, he sometimes goes out with me on 25km rides at a fairly fast pace (near 30km/h, drafting behind me), and up some hills. He’s no Lance Armstrong, but he can ride easily now. He’s still got some flab around his waist, but i bet he’s lost some of it since he started riding, and his heart and lungs have certainly gotten healthier.
This same scenario could be true for probably 95% of the population. The problem is that when all around you there are these heavy gas-powered vehicles that make it easy for you to go anywhere without expending the least bit of energy, and a culture that tells you that driving is thrilling and it’s The Thing To Do, then (not so amazingly) people tend to do it. If everyone’s only exercise is getting off the couch to walk to the car, then we develop into a sedentary society. This is the real reason that a lot of people don’t feel able to ride bikes.
I do not feel comfortable taking the bus to Stanley Park because my shifts at the aquarium sometimes end at dark & I do not want to be walking through the park at night! This is definitely a very important criticism, but i don’t think it has much to do with bikes. It has to do with our patriarchal society. Men have very little fear of walking through Stanley Park because it’s men who are doing the attacking. A solution to this particular stanley park problem might be some kind of “Safe Walk” program like you find on the campus of many universities. If fear of male violence is preventing women from doing the things that they want or need to do, then we need to organize ways to counteract that. Before a group solution is in place, then perhaps the individual solution (driving instead of busing) is the best thing for now.
It takes longer to get places riding a bike. Plus, so many people now live quite a ways from where they work. I think these are the result of the perceptions we develop when we are immersed in a car culture for so long. After years of accepting that it is possible to drive 80km in one hour, and ignoring all the social consequences that it entails when everyone is doing it, we find it hard to consider that maybe going 80km should take a little bit longer. It’s also part of our always-busy time-conscious society that makes us watch every minute and try to be “efficient” with our time. There are many problems that tie into this.
If we want to have fewer road deaths, fewer deaths from sedentary lifestyles, fewer pollutants in the air, then we’re going to have to change some of the things we do, and one of those things is the massive commuting from the suburbs to the center of the city. We need to work closer to where we live rather than doing the huge car-pilgrimage every day. People live farther from their work when they feel entitled to get in their gas-burning steel cages every day and drive 30 or 40km to work. If they didn’t consider that a viable option, then they’d probably live closer to work and ride their bike. This is a common topic in urban design, where you have to consider population density and all sorts of other things that i don’t want to get into at the moment. But let me just say that there are many other ways to organize the way we get to and from work. It doesn’t have to stay the way it is now, but neither is it going to change overnight. it’ll take plenty of effort, certainly
But another aspect of this is the perception that bikes are slow and it would take “forever” to get around town on a bike. It’s just not true. A good example is Broadway in Vancouver. it’s a nice fat street with 2 or 3 lanes in each direction…should be fast, right? Actually, the cars only average between 30km/h and 35km/h. I know this because that’s the speed i go on my bike when i ride on broadway. What happens is that the cars speed up to 60 or 70km/h until they hit the next red light, at which point i catch up to them. So, when i ride at a steady pace of 30km/h, i can get to my destination just as fast as any car or bus that uses the street. The difference is that i’m happy, getting good exercise, not polluting, and not endangering anyone’s life, while the people in the cars are stressed because they think they’re going to be late for something, but they’re constantly waiting at red lights…so they try to go faster, endangering more peoples’ lives while they pollute our city.
Another example is from when i first started riding my bike. One day i wanted to go from my place in vancouver to my parents’ place in delta, but i decided to take my bike instead of the bus. Normally, i’d walk 5 or 10 minutes from my house to the nearest major street (broadway), then wait 5 or 10 minutes for the bus, followed by 10 minutes on the bus to get to Granville street. Then i’d wait again for the bus and ride it for about 30 minutes to get to delta. The route by bike was much faster….I went straight south over the knight street bridge and passed Ikea in richmond within the first 20 minutes. This would be about the time that i’d normally get onto the first bus. Then, i’d take another 20 minutes to ride through the scenic farm roads in richmond to get to the Massey tunnel. This would be about the time that i’d get on the second bus. so far, i’m about 30 minutes ahead of schedule. all that remains is to take one short bus ride to get through the tunnel (which stupidly has no bike lane) and i’m there. I’m 30 minutes ahead of the bus, over the whole trip. Most people typically guess that the bus would win because it gets to drive 100km/h on the highway, but when you take out the transfer time and the minimal waiting, then the bike trip is faster. Similar time savings occur with trips by car because it often takes at least 20 minutes to find and pay for a parking spot, and then walk from there to where you are really going. Extra time is added for filling the car with gas.
Ok, i guess i should wrap this thing up. It’s easy to show that cars hurt us. We need something different. What that different thing looks like is not set in stone, but we know the direction we should be heading, and that is more human-powered transportation that doesn’t frivolously use up steel and gas. Transportation centered around people instead of cars would improve our lives in many ways. We can’t just sit back and say that it’ll never happen because we can’t immediately think of absolutely every detail of how it’s supposed to happen. We just take one step at a time based on our values that we want to promote. As in all cases of societal change, collective action is more effective than individual action. Just individually riding your bike is great, but it’s not gonna change the world. We need to collaborate with each other and form groups that can act together to enact these changes on a larger scale. Those groups should also be making alliances with other groups that work on different issues, such as working with womens’ shelters on the issues around male violence and night-time safety. Working together, we can change the way things work.
Ride hard, ride free
April 27th, 2006 at 13:44 pm
What about bringing back the horse & buggy? Another thing that worries me is the future of Deltaport. I would not want to be riding my bike alongside or near to all the extra trucks that will be coming! Even if quite a few people accepted this & did start using more bikes, there will still be some vehicles around, & another thing that I did not mention was that I have a “nervous” personality (come from low self-confidence) & therefore do not feel confident riding on streets with vehicles. You never know what those vehicles are going to do! ;)
April 27th, 2006 at 14:01 pm
Wonderful article! I’ll just add a couple of things from my experience.
Riding can indeed be quicker than public transport or cars. I managed to prove this yesterday by racing a train over to our next city and winning by 15 minutes.
As for long distances, there are journeys which are too far to be cycling. In these cases one needs to question why they are making such journeys in the first place, as there’s often no valid reason. And if there is a valid reason, then a mix of public transport and biking is usually the answer.
At one point I was having to commute 100 km each way to an office I was working at. Getting there for 9am and leaving at 5pm simply wasn’t possible to do by bike. As it was only for a week I biked to the train station either side. Had it been long-term I’d have moved.
Last week I was refused a particular job because I don’t have a driving license. My argument that cycling would be quicker for local jobs and public transport perfectly acceptable for longer distances wasn’t accepted. Whilst I’m still annoyed, I can accept their views. However, they’re ignoring a more fundamental point - the longer distances simply shouldn’t be done. Traveling across the country simply to install a new computer is just unacceptable when there are perfectly capable geeks just a bike ride away.
Sorry this has become a rather long comment, I’m currently in rant mode on the same topic.
April 27th, 2006 at 18:22 pm
Now while I believe that this is a great idea, I don’t see it being implemented, especially outside of major metropoliton areas.
Now say you wished to travel to a small town in the interior carrying a large amount of stuff because you’re moving or something like this. We can use Grand Forks as an example. It takes 10 hours to take a greyhound bus to GF and you have rather limited carrying space. You can take a car or rent a moving van and be there in 5 hours (depending on how fast you drive). You can take a bike and be there in a week (with very limited storage space). While I wish trains were more of an option, ViaRail is nowhere near as advanced as the European rail system (case in point, If I wanted to take the train from Vancouver to Kitimat, BC… the route goes from Vancouver to Jasper then Jasper to Prince George, Prince George to Terrace and then I would have to take a car from Terrace to Kitimat for the last leg of the trip.)
BC outside of the lower mainland cannot support a pro-bike and transit system. Our country is too big for it. If we had an excellent train system like Europe, then maybe because then there would be options for people who can’t or don’t wish to bike across the province to visit Aunt Judy in Revelstoke or Uncle Dave in Anaheim Lake.
I can support your ideas more within Vancouver proper, unfortunately the local government doesn’t seem to be pushing for more movement in that direction. It has been said that SFU itself as an example is not anti-bike, but definately is not doing enough to be pro-bike, a theme repeated throughout the city. And lets not get started on insufficient transit… Anyways, I’ll end my random blurb here.
April 27th, 2006 at 21:34 pm
I’m unconvinced by your Bikes At Work product plug.
The compromised answer would be: “Borrow your friend’s truck, you know, the friend that does construction?” Or, rather, have a vehicle available, whether by community or by yourself, that is used for utility, rather than commute or leisure.
I don’t think it’s too unreasonable to have an infrequently-used motored vehicle (your choice of fuel) available to haul heavy, awkward, or mass amounts of “stuff”.
Especially when I think about pulling 1000 lbs up Royal Oak. Unpossible.
April 27th, 2006 at 21:39 pm
I just noticed this:
Men have very little fear of walking through Stanley Park because it’s men who are doing the attacking.
Uh huh. Tell that to the victims of the homophobic hate-crimes that are on the rise in the area. I don’t feel safe walking around Stanley Park at night. No one should.
April 27th, 2006 at 22:06 pm
It’s not just being attacked by people I’m worried about by walking through Stanley Park at night, but encountering raccoons, skunks, etc.! And not only that, but I am somewhat nervous in the dark ;)
Pete, your whole idea is actually a very good one, I am not criticizing it, just bringing up different issues. I feel like a very big hypocrite driving around in my car while at the same time being a member of many naturalist societies. I will try & use my bike more. Just today I went out & was able to make it to Lion’s Gate Fisheries on River Road West before I got very tired & had to turn around. And I rode by some large trucks!
April 28th, 2006 at 01:04 am
Dan: thanks for playing. i actually mentioned that concession here: “But really, the biggest concern i have is using huge gas powered vehicles for every task. If you used one for some special purpose that only occurs once every year, then i don’t think it’s such a big deal.”
As for the homophobic attacks and whatnot, ya, you’re right about that, but there’s still a difference in how men perceive the risk of, say, walking down a residential street at night, perhaps with a man walking down the street on the same side of the street. That’s what i’m trying to get at. the risk is different if you’re a woman.
thanks for the comments. you mentioned some good points.
Laura: The British Medical Association says that not cycling is 20x more dangerous than cycling, because of the risk of heart disease and other ailments due to sedentary lifestyles. And statistically cycling is safer than being a passenger in a car. But also remember that riding on the road is 4x safer than riding on the sidewalk, and that less than 1% of accidents involve a car overtaking a cyclist from behind. Sometime soon i’ll write something on basic safety tips, and maybe spit out some more stats about how safe it is, but until then just enjoy being outside :)
April 28th, 2006 at 07:43 am
hey so, Venice is car free. they got boats tho.
April 28th, 2006 at 10:42 am
Yeah, basic safety tips for cycling would be a big help. I’ll check it out on the Internet, now that I have High Speed!!!!! :) Yeah, I know, off topic, but now I can be on the computer & on the phone at the same time! I’m starting to get out of the dark ages ;)
My dad has a canoe; I could launch it from the dock at the end of Ferry Road and go to Richmond! ;)
April 28th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Great post – very inspirational to relatively new bicyclists such as myself. I started riding seriously about a year ago. You’re completely right about the process from which it all gets easier. There is a big hill I have to tackle every day. At first I had to use the quickest gear and stand up on my bike. While I still have to switch gears, I only have to downshift once or twice. And I no longer have to stand so I can keep a steady peddling pace. On top of the hills, the elevation here is at 7 thousand feet, which also takes a bit of getting used to. When I first moved here, I thought I was going to die, but riding at sea-level now makes me feel like a super hero…..and I think that’s all what we want….to feel like a super hero.
The thing I’ve noticed about riding is….it really makes you hate cars….what with there inconsiderate road hogging, carbon monoxide and that blast of black exhaust you get when trucks pass…argh.
Oh, Shawn…I was recently visiting Venice….the water is really gross….
April 28th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
kyle: ya but no cars right? That’s the important part :).
April 29th, 2006 at 02:01 am
Your comment about a fear of walking through Stanley Park verges on pretty flagrant misandry. Having grown up in a neighbourhood where gang violence and muggings are somewhat common, I really have to take exception to the statement that only women, or even in your corrected statement, homosexual men, have something to be afraid of. Maybe if being attacked can only be sexual or bigoted in nature, sure, but I’m pretty afraid of getting beaten up by street thugs for having looked at one of them the wrong way, or seeming like my personal property is up for grabs.
April 30th, 2006 at 10:59 am
Missy, I think it’s pretty clear Pete was talking about cities, not rural BC. That is an interesting issue though. I grew up in the Kootenays and my parents drove everywhere. In some ways one thinks it’d be impossible to get around without a car. I suspect even around there cars could at least be used less. There are independant contractors who use their trucks to transport materials and what not. I can’t think of how they could do that without a truck. But for some things it’s totally doable:
The distance to the nearest food/movie/beer store was 5km. Very reasonable distance for cycling. I cycled there now and then when i wanted to rent a movie or get cat food.
I had a job that was probably somewhere between 12 to 15km away when i was in highschool. That was also doable. I cycled for the first week but it was physical labor all day and I couldn’t hack the ride home. If I’d been a bit stronger I bet i coulda done it.
The nearest town was around 25km away. That’s starting to become a significant distance for a round trip grocery run. But again, I think it was mostly a psychological. I just somehow thought you couldn’t cycle to Nelson. You just couldn’t. If you did, wow you were a god.
That’s where I grew up anyway. We could be cycling a lot more than we do is my point.
May 1st, 2006 at 18:38 pm
shawn: ya, there are a lot of mental barriers to overcome. i’m sure my dad could do a 25km trip out to somewhere and then do 25km back, later in the day. He might even be able to do it all at once by now. I think it’s just about having an active lifestyle. If you ride your bike 10km every day, then you can almost certainly ride 50km in a day.
The main point is that alternatives exist now, and if our society wasn’t so bent on using existing heavy steel gas-guzzling cars, we could expect many other innovations to make our lives easier without having to pollute and kill people. There are different directions we could be exploring, and it’s possible to start doing that right now.
May 1st, 2006 at 22:43 pm
Okay, now I’m all for your viewpoint Pete. Was driving (argghhh) out to White Rock today, and was going down Crescent Road, when next thing I know some idiot has turned and is trying to merge (luckily almost) into the side of me! Guess he/she (did not see the driver) only looked one way! I had to swerve off the road (luckily there were no cyclists in the bike lane!). The person turned around and did not even continue my direction. Since no damage was done (at least not to the car) I did not stop. Suffice it to say though that I now have a sore back! Damn stupid *&#@ cars!!!
June 26th, 2007 at 21:35 pm
hey… i started road biking last spring when my car died and every km since has been like some kind of blessing. skinnier, stronger and definately happier i am. i commute 33 km each way and i almost wish i could work further away. kill your car- you won’t regret